Jodi: Hi, I am Jodi Cohen, your host, and I’m so excited for this very thought-provoking conversation we’re gonna have with my dear friend Dr. Greg Eckel, who is a naturopathic and Chinese medicine practitioner. He uses a variety of tools, including frequency, which we’re gonna talk about to treat acute and chronic illness, emphasizing on prevention and wellness principles.
Welcome, Greg.
Our topic today is frequency is the future of medicine. Could you unpack that a little bit for our listeners?
Greg: We grew up with Newtonian physics of going from point A to point B with time in between and it’s a mattered world of where what we learned and how we think about medicine with physiology and biochemistry, which are really valid. And I love all of the research behind that. There’s also this new kid on the block, which is quantum physics. That can explain basically frequency is wave forms. And I think the best description of that are these devices that we hold in our mega computers where there’s frequency bringing particles of information in, and it gets interpreted on that.
If we can understand that with our technology, that is also our bodies. Our bodies are the biggest receptor, the embodiment of bringing information in. It’s actually quite miraculous when you think about it, sight and sound and touch and feeling and taste like all of our senses.
And then our para-sensory abilities with intuition and serendipity and all of those things where that’s in the frequency. We say frequency creates form or matter.
One way that I think about it as we are light beings being compressed down into mattered. This mattered body is the slowest waveform. And in fact, so slow that we feel like it’s physical. And that it gets to this point. So when we talk about frequency and frequency medicine, easier terms to think about are light or sound are two major frequencies that we, I really have been seeing over the last decade that is the future of medicine.
And actually, when you look at it, it could have been the beginning of time as well. Some of this technology comes from way, way back. When you look at some of the early Vedic textbooks out of India, 8,000 years old, and they had mantras or sounds that you admit for the different chakra centers of the body to help heal the body.
And so it is bringing, basically cutting-edge therapeutics through an ancient lens that I really like to talk about with where we’re going as a species and actually how we heal on a deep and profound level.
Jodi: And it would be interesting to see the genesis of your practice ’cause you started as a chiropractor and I’m just curious like what you were treating and what you have added in and how you’ve seen that enhance healing with?
Greg: I started as a naturopathic provider naturopathic physician and Chinese medicine practitioner. So I do physical medicine as well. I don’t do chiropractic though. I do naturopathic manipulation techniques, which nobody’s really ever heard of. But it is the more physical forms, using herbs, using diet, using movement, using mindset, lifestyle, medicine, treating environment along, more of the biochemistry, physiology rather than doing.
You start with the physical and the biology. Do it more with herbs or more natural supplements. So you’re totally spot on there. Now I have always been tuned into energetics. Finding one of my favorite music bands, the Grateful Dead, that I credit for getting me out of Johnstown, Pennsylvania, which I love, Johnstown, Pennsylvania and my Kindred family there, but it is also coal and steel country.
And I come from a long line of alcoholism and there’s reason for that in those hills. I followed the Grateful Dead. I actually chose my undergraduate school by how many Grateful Dead shows I could see on the East Coast. I know fun fact about Dr. Greg, but it’s coming full circle now because now I can actually prescribe psychedelics clinically to help heal deep seated traumas and ancestral trauma.
It’s like I was made for this. That energetic opening that I found there through psychedelics as a youngster really tuned me into the energetics of plants, the energetics of smells, essential oils, different roots of transmission of information. And then fast forward 16 years into practice where I really with going through personal tragedy with my wife at the time, Sariah, who developed rapidly progressing memory issues.
And unexplained, and I always knew that Sariah was one in a million. Unfortunately, she got the diagnosis of CJD, which is Chrisl Jacob Disease, which is one in a million diagnosis, which is a PreOn disorder, misfolded proteins, which is rapidly progressing dementia, and then death, and navigating that with our kids and my practice and life in general.
Which I do not wish on anyone, but that’s my path. It in a weird way ripped my heart open as you could imagine, but reinstated my faith in the oneness of all in unity consciousness. And I could be making this story up and I don’t really care if I’m making this story up because I came through wholehearted and really just totally grateful for this time together and the preciousness of life and just a deep appreciation and gratitude for the beauty that is around us and the preciousness of life.
We wrote the story before we got here because it was so tragic, I never knew, I was in relationship for eight years, married, and I didn’t know that you could have a relationship like that with anybody on the planet before I met her. For a variety of reasons. It’s just that’s where I was in my lifespan. And so that aspect has really allowed me, it opened me up to even broader, more the statement, of you are the universe. The universe is you, or in you is this statement that I had been saying for a long time. It’s a training in Chinese medicine. It’s in the ancient textbooks.
But then to actually experience that as the little, the nebulous of the universe spinning out and waking up as star. That’s a whole other level of understanding of the unity consciousness and oneness principle. And so to be able to speak directly to the matter with people because of my lived experience and my truths has really had profound effects across the board. I didn’t want my suffering to be for naught. And really turning that what could have been massive and it was tragedy. I don’t again, wish loss like that on anyone. But to navigate it with open heart and come through whole and with the understanding and just that deep appreciation and love. It really gave me like unleashed, Dr. Greg, let’s say, and it allows me to speak directly into the matter.
And then really bring forth some of these new therapeutics that to affect change quicker, really. And one of my implicit now explicit goals is helping create heaven on earth faster than we ever dream possible and really educating people about their full potential and their glory and greatness of what we’re actually capable of. Because I see it every day in clinic and every year I’m in practice. I get more and more confident speaking into that truth.
Jodi: I love everything you said and I can comment on so much of it. Like I think pain is a great catalyst because there are places you would not choose to go if you didn’t have to. And I think when you’re in pain you have to go through certain things to get out of it. So thank you for taking that tragedy and using it to mobilize, like helping the rest of us. I do wanna get into some of the frequency tools that you have. This amazing clinic now in Park City and is that the only one, or do you have more?
Greg: Park City and Portland, Oregon. We have two centers currently, and right now the names are Be Vital, PC and Nature Cures Clinic, and we’re actually coming together as Energy for Life Centers. There’s a movement for wanting more energy for life and the component of allowing humans to thrive.
We deal with imbalances, we deal with pain, fatigue, mental health issues. Chronic fatigue pain. I specialize in brain regeneration just after going through that whole saga with Sariah and looking and discovering, really taking a stand for people and getting their lives back. And it is uncovered a whole swath, from laser activated and guided very small embryonic like stem cell treatments to using the voice as a hologram to measure the biofield or the bioenergetics of the being to beaming on almost like a tri-quarter of my health device.
Carrying information packets for healing. We’re programming IV bags with specific information for people based off of their voice scan. As we deliver stem cells intranasally into the brain, we’re using these super grade sound bowls to resonate around the brain and allow it to go deeper into consciousness and cavernous expanses of the brain. So we’re going out there and we’re getting some phenomenal results layering frequencies.
Jodi: So one of the questions that we started with the biology. So how does the frequency affect the biology? How is the quantum like upstream from the biology?
Greg: Sure. So that component of Newtonian physics that I started with going point A to point B with time in between, now we can stand that up where time doesn’t exist. And when you look at all of the great textbooks and all of the different traditional religious past that basically time doesn’t exist. We only have right now. And so the construct, it gets a little heady and out there quick, but there’s a lot of research to support what I’m saying here, so we can move upstream.
Out of a time continuum where this takes time to make this change and we can stack it on itself and create, when you start changing the frequencies, the form will change instantaneously, so you can move upstream. Where again, that picture of us as light beings being compressed down into this body, into the mattered form. If we go back up into the light and start getting into that quantum understanding where time doesn’t exist, you can actually get instantaneous changes in the human being in this 3D form.
So we use measurements on biofields or bioenergetics around the body to then inform the intelligence of ourselves. There’s an innate intelligence that animates the whole thing, and we can put in reminders to say, no, this is where you want to be. This is Wellville, this is thriving, this is health. And it just reminds the innate intelligence because really, that is our nature, to be pure, whole healed in thriving mode. And then we come down to this curriculum. There’s a big learning environment, so that’s where I said we wrote this story before we got here.
Jodi: And just to chime in on that, Max died when he was 12 and someone suggested that I look at his natal chart and see if that was in there and it was. I have considered that as well. And just to anchor in what that means for people, I sometimes do lymph drainage massage, and for me, congestion occurs at the liver. So then things are backlogged and I’ve had a practitioner laser the liver. And immediately the liver opens up and then the lymph flows.
So is that relevant to what you were talking about to the immediate shift?
Greg: It really is. As a Chinese medicine practitioner, we’ll just use the liver, right? The liver gets constrained and energy stops flowing well. How do you measure that energy? We can measure your pulses, we can look at your tongue. We can do biofield scans, we can do voice scans – and what that is is you’re putting a laser, which is light, shining on the liver, feeding the mitochondria, which are the energy factories, which then are light receptors basically, and that organ network then opens up and the lymph starts flowing well, that’s the frequency influencing the form, right? So there’s the continuum in there.
It’s not just EAL bodies of non-existent form. I wanna know how do we influence the embodiment of these things and create health. So that’s one way you can do sound, the same thing. You can do it with different frequencies of sound, different, 432 hertz, or 369 hertz or 963 hertz. There’s different frequencies that vibrate cells at different rates that can clear traumas, can help reset back to a natural or healthy state.
So we do it with light, we do it with waveforms like pulsed electromagnetic frequency, PEMF, or low level laser therapy. The acupuncture needles do this as well by changing the micro tubule structure, which is positive and negative ions in the connective tissue or the living matrix where the lymph is, and sometimes the lymph gets in there and creates blockages. So we use these techniques to open up the energetic pathways, which then has a result on the biochemistry and physiology, and we’re actually showing much quicker change for people as well by doing that.
It’s that vibration that reminds the innate intelligence to say, wait a minute, I’m not vibrating properly. Or this is the whole concept when you look at you can’t do some, you have to be the thing for the change to happen. And it’s how do you vibrate at a love vibration? One you can listen to sounds that are in that love frequency. You can emulate in your heart with gratitude and love of thinking, and a lot of people think I don’t understand. What are you talking about, Dr. Greg? This thing about self-love. If it was your child or your animal, think about how you would you love them. You could put that into a glass of water and then drink the water for yourself. If you’re having trouble envisioning or thinking about how do you direct the energy for you. It opens up a lot of possibilities and a lot of therapeutic pathways that people hadn’t really considered before.
But we have more and more research to support it, so it’s less woo and it’s fun to say woo, but it’s actually when people discount it or say, oh, that’s too woo, it’s like they’re actually not reading the research out there.
Jodi: There’s so many things, like you just dropped so many pearls that people could try immediately when they’re having a gratitude moment, like holding their water and pouring the love into the water and then drinking it. What are some other kinds of low-hanging fruit things that you recommend people try at home?
Greg: The starting spots are really out of gratitude is where you can get into a process which is gratitude, intentions, surrender, and trust, which is the GIST method. We’re gonna be bringing that out over this next year where first you get into a sense of gratitude. Then you can put in intention but first you have to get into gratitude. What are you grateful for? I’m looking out my window here in Portland, Oregon. The trees are starting to bud. There’s actually sunshine today on the red brick library building. That view is phenomenal. And blue skies like that is unheard of in the northwest. So I’m very grateful for a sunny spring day. And there’s more energy with people, even though my kids say it doesn’t make a difference to them, I see the difference.
Jodi: It’s sunny in Seattle too. I walk my dogs every day and I can tell you when it’s sunny, people are happier. People are smiling.
Greg: But we have deep gratitude and appreciation for that. So that’s one. Getting into gratitude, obviously a lot of people talk about it, a lot of research on that. As a naturopathic practitioner and physician I really recommend getting into nature. There’s no such thing as bad weather, only bad gear.
Getting out into Mother Nature, it’s our home. My cousin Lynn, we used to go hiking and she’d be like, there’s macro and micro moments. Make sure you take the micro moments, like looking at the ferns, looking at the soil, looking at the flower, looking at the butterfly, appreciating the bird song or whatever those things are. It’s a one in 500 million chance of being born and somehow we take it as like this burden on us. It’s a miracle that we’re even here folks.
Getting into that deep appreciation, getting out at the wonders of nature. I like to say I’ll watch the trees breathe. That’s one of my monikers of watching the trees breathe. Watching how the wind moves them, how they can bend with massive wind, but they’ve got that strong core of roots, so they’re able to be rooted even with the winds of change going. And so to emulate that personally, it’s like that’s where I will go if I just get overwhelmed. To get outta the mind, you get out and watch the trees breathe.
Jodi: I used to do with my kids sometimes is tell them to look for hearts. Like in the clouds, on the flowers. When you start looking for hearts, you find them. These are all such great starting tools. Thank you so much. Can you say again where people can find you and find your clinic?
Greg: Energy4LifeCenters.com. We have a lot of handouts you can do. If you’re interested in that voice scan, you can definitely go to the front page and we’ll give you a free voice scan and we can talk about it.
Jodi: Thank you so much for your time and your brilliance.
