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Season 4, Episode 6: Pelvic Health with Jana Danielson

By Jodi Cohen

Promotional image for the podcast "Essential Alchemy: The Ancient Art of Healing Naturally." It features headshots of Jodi Cohen, NTP, and Jana Danielson against a purple background. The text mentions "Pelvic Health with Jana Danielson" at the bottom.

Join Jodi as she unpacks Jana Danielson’s inspiring journey with chronic pain that led her to discover the power of Pilates and mobility work to transform her health. Jana emphasizes the importance of addressing the underlying causes of pain and dysfunction, rather than just treating the symptoms.

Tune in to Learn More About:

  • The connection between spinal mobility, organ health, and overall well-being
  • 5 key spinal movements (flexion, extension, lateral flexion, rotation, inversion) and how they impact the body
  • The often overlooked role of the pelvic floor and how dysfunction in this area can contribute to a wide range of issues

Tune in to learn about Jana’s holistic approach to helping women overcome pain, improve mobility, and optimize their pelvic and overall health through the power of movement and purposeful self-care.

If you liked this episode, please consider sharing a positive review or subscribing. You can also find more information and resources on Jodi Cohen’s website, http://vibrantblueoils.com.

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About Jana Danielson

Jana Danielson is an award-winning wellness entrepreneur and founder of Lead Pilates and the Cooch Ball, the world’s first pelvic floor fitness tool for women.

About the Cooch Ball:

– Jana’s creation of the Cooch Ball, the world’s first pelvic floor fitness tool for women, after recognizing the need for an accessible way to address pelvic floor health
– The Cooch Ball’s design and how it can be used to bring blood flow and mobility to the pelvic floor in just 3 minutes per day
– The importance of diaphragmatic breathing and its direct connection to pelvic floor function

✪ Jana Danielson: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bloombetter.life/⁠ Facebook: ⁠The Cooch Ball⁠⁠⁠⁠ | Instagram: ⁠jana.danielson⁠

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Jodi Cohen: Hello, I am Jodi Cohen, your host, and I’m so excited to be joined by my dear friend Jana Danielson, where we’re going to talk about all things like mobility, pain, and her fabulous cooch ball product. Jana is an award-winning wellness entrepreneur who through her own experience with physical pain, turned her mess into her message, which has now become her mission. She is an Amazon international bestselling author, founder of Lead Pilates and Lead Integrated Health Therapies, and the Cooch Ball, the world’s first pelvic floor fitness tool for women that you can use for three minutes a day and have amazing results. So welcome, Jana.

Jana Danielson: Jody, thanks so much for having me here. I’m excited for this conversation.

Jodi Cohen: I’m too, and I want the listeners to know how did you talk to me about how you came up with…

Jana Danielson: This? Yeah, so as you alluded to in my bio, I think that those of us that are in the world of healing now had some sort of experience with pain or something that was gifted to us in a former life, and that brought us to where we are today. That’s exactly what happened to me. I was in my early twenties. I had a lot of undiagnosed digestive pain. I spent about two years going from doctors to specialists with no diagnosis and just the next prescription, the next piece of paper to go to the pharmacy to fill. And so I found myself at 21 years old on 11 different medications every single day, just to be told by my doctors one day that they believed the pain was in my head and I was seeking attention.

I felt like the rug was being pulled out from under me. I thought that my whole life I was newly engaged to my high school sweetheart, and I was questioning why would I go through with the wedding. Because why would a partner that can’t even get up in the morning, I wanted to be a

mom, how would that even possibly happen? And so through this series of events, I actually found Pilates, and I love that you mentioned the word mobility because what actually happened for me, six months after being told that the pain was in my head, I went to my first Pilates class and 16 weeks after that date, I was off all my medication. I had no idea what had just happened. How did movement heal me? How? And that’s exactly what happened. I thought I was fit. I used to teach aerobics in university to pay for my tuition, but what I didn’t realize was the importance of breathing with my diaphragm, moving my spine in beautiful ways, what that does for all the organs, and how we optimize their functionality, our mindset, how critical it is when you can be, like I always say in Winnie the Pooh, there’s ior, the little donkey, and I really was living like an Eyor.


Jana Danielson: I was feeling sorry for myself. I thought that others should feel sorry for me. And it wasn’t until I kind of turned things around and became more of that Tigger for myself, a cheerleader for myself, believing that I deserve to have a healthy life. That’s when things turned around for me. And so anyone that’s been in pain knows that if you’ve been in pain long enough, it’s not just the pain where it started, your whole body succumbs to the pain. And in my early twenties, I found myself having a lot of pelvic floor pain, hadn’t had a baby, and was not in menopause. And I was wondering why, what is happening here? And so I shifted my world from the corporate, climbing the corporate ladder to wellness entrepreneurship, and I got certified in Pilates, opened my own studio, and expanded five years later to include an integrated health therapies clinic.

And the one thing I found that was so interesting was as I would teach Pilates to women and would talk about pelvic floor through the breath work, they would stop making eye contact with me. They wouldn’t be asking questions. And I was like, Hey, what’s happening here? They trust me. We have a relationship and yet we can’t talk about this part of our body. And I figured I was onto something and I did some work with a urogynecologist out of the US who had just released some new research in the mid-20, around 2014. And his research said that in a woman’s body, 90% of pelvic floor dysfunction is actually rooted in lack of mobility, poor posture and fascial restriction. And I was like, wait a minute, if that’s really true, I can help nine out of 10 women as a Pilates instructor. And that’s literally how the cooch ball was born. I was a mom by then. I went downstairs to my boys’ toy box. I sat on their mini basketballs, their floor hockey balls just to see what would this feel like if I brought blood flow to the area. And that’s the story.

Jodi Cohen: Well, you know what? There’s also trauma down there, the women that have been raped that’s really involved in it. I love what you said though, a couple of things. The victim mentality, I always talk about ER too, and I’m not, my goal is to be poo because I am a little bit too bouncy, floy, Tigger. If I can just be chill, that would be great. But mobility really helps. I also love what you said about moving the spine to open the organs. Can you talk about that a little bit more and how breathing, because I think everyone, they hear breathing and it’s almost like, oh, that’s too hard. Or they hear pelvis and they’re like, Ooh, don’t want to go there. We have all of these. It’s like me with pigeon pose, the things that we avoid that we probably need. Can you talk about that?

Jana Danielson: Absolutely. So Joseph Pilates, who is the gentleman who invented the whole system of movement around Pilates, said that the health of our spine dictated the health of our body. And so there’s five ways, it’s kind of like a recipe.

Jana Danielson: There are five ways every day to simply move our spine. So if you think of the spine, if it’s like a Christmas tree and all the lights are plugged in, if there’s that one bulb that’s not working, sometimes a whole section of lights doesn’t work. It’s the same thing, right? When our spine doesn’t move, think of what happens in our body when we have small little bones in

our hands and our feet and our spine. Those bones are meant to move. When we have long bones, like the bones in our arms and our legs, those bones are meant to hold us for stability. And yet because we sit so much during the day, those little bones in our spine start to take on the personality of being a solid bone. And so the five spinal movements are simply spinal flexion. And you know what, I’m just, I’m going to just shift my camera. I want to just show really quickly, oh, I love this. Thank you.

A little movement here. Okay. So spinal flexion simply means if someone was going to poke you in your belly button, you would create a little tuck. Oh, okay. So it’s not this. So too many of us are like this already at our desks. So the spinal flexion or the rounding of the spine actually comes from the lumbar or the lower back. It’s a little tiny tuck. Okay? You’re sitting at your desk. If you do a little tiny tuck, you almost feel like if you were wearing a belt, that belt just got cinched up one notch tighter. We start to actually massage our organs. It’s an internal massage. And so for those of you who are bloated or constipated, that also is a pelvic floor issue. It’s rooted in the pelvic floor, the pelvic floor being dysfunctional, either too tight or lacking tone. Okay? So that’s spinal movement number one.

The opposite of flexion is extension. So it’s kind of just sticking the booty back, creating a little bit more of an arch in your back. So we have flexion and extension. So sometimes when I’m sitting at my desk on a Zoom call without people even knowing I’m doing these, this little tailbone tuck, and then I’m sticking my booty back, and if you do it with good posture, do you even see how my blinds have those lines? You can’t really even tell that I’m doing these little tucks. And that is what really starts opening up or massaging those organs. The next two spinal movements are simply bending to the side lateral flexion. You want to make sure those bony bones in your butt stay grounded. Kayla, I don’t want you to lean all the way over, kind of like in yoga when you, yes, here’s the one watch for, okay, you want to make sure that your pelvis like those bony bones in your butt.

They’re like the roots of a tree. So if you’re in a chair doing a side bend, you want to make sure that as you’re bending to the side, you don’t let go with that butt. You keep the butt nicely grounded. You want your spine to be moving, okay, nice spinal rotation. You do a shoulder check or even if someone calls your name, you turn. So rotation is also very important. And when we twist our spine, the organs get to again, massage on one another.

Jana Danielson: So there’s this yummy just interaction between the tissues and they actually start talking to each other like, Hey, how are you? I’m kind of tight today. And so there’s this beautiful kind of communication system. And then the fifth spinal movement, you would have to lay on the floor, but if you laid on your back with your knees bent and if you lifted your butt off the floor into a little bit of a bridge, we call that an inversion. So your tailbone is a little bit higher than your heart. Spinal fluid gets to work against gravity in a different way, and that really was Joe Pilates recipe for a healthy body was moving your spine that way, and it literally takes minutes a day. So that’s the correlation between spinal movement and the health of our organs.

Jodi Cohen: I see yoga and all of those, that’s amazing. And I love Pilates. Also, talk to me now about the cooch ball and how you bring the ball into the practice.

Jana Danielson: So let’s quickly do, I’m just going to grab an apple. Okay.

Jodi Cohen: Thank you. And by the way, I love that this does kind of remind me of the little kid basketballs. I don’t think they’re allowed to play dodge ball anymore. People could get hurt, but these were like the dodge balls.

Jana Danielson: They were the dodge balls. They totally were. And we’ll talk about what makes this different from a dodge ball. In a second, I want to use an apple. So here I have a basic apple. Our core is exactly the same as if we were to eat the fruit of this apple, we would have the apple core left, right? The core has a top, the core has a bottom, and the core has the 360 degrees cylinder, the diaphragm muscle, which is our main muscle of respiration. It’s sits in our rib cage like an open umbrella or a mushroom cap that sits here. That’s the roof of our core is our diaphragm. The floor of our core is our pelvic floor, okay? The pelvic floor is made up of 14 little muscles that create this beautiful hammock inside of our pelvis. And the pelvis is the bones of our hips that come.

Basically this band here is our pelvis. Okay? Yes. So we have a roof and a ceiling, and then the cylinder is made up of four different abdominal muscles. The deepest set of abdominals are the transverse ados. And what we don’t understand is from a fitness perspective, we believe we have to chase the six-pack, right? If you have a definition in your six-pack, that means you are fit. But actually I’m here to tell you that that is such a myth because the six-pack muscle called the rectus ados is actually the least functional of all your abdominals. It doesn’t give your waist shape, it doesn’t support your spine. It is the muscle of the abdominals. That’s the first. It goes to the skin and then the rectus abs. So if you have a low enough body fat percent, yeah, you’re going to see those lines. But if you really want health and vitality and longevity, you’re looking in the wrong spot.

Jana Danielson: The deepest abs, which are the transverse abs that wrap this entire core, start at your back, and they wrap to your front. And when you breathe diaphragmatically, ladies and gentlemen, you are accessing that deep, deep abdominal muscle. So here’s something that a lot of people don’t know. When you stop using your diaphragm, when you watch a newborn baby breathe, what do you see their belly doing? That belly rises and falls with every breath. We become young women and all of a sudden we’re sucking in, we’re trying to look really narrow. We wear fashion that kind of cinch us, and takes away space at the expense of this muscle losing its ability to breathe. And because our body is so smart, the body just sends the breathing work into our neck. These muscles, the scales, and the sternocleidomastoids already have a job. They hold this bowling ball up on the spine.

And so we’ve taken away this big muscle and we’ve replaced it with these little muscles. And about 21,000 times a day, we’re asking these muscles to breathe, and we have neck tension, jaw tension, low-grade headaches at the brow line, at the hairline mean. And then you have to start using Jody’s fascia release oil to start to get some relief because that’s what’s happening is you’re just getting so locked up because you forgot the first act of life, which is breath, and we forget how to do it. And when you breathe diaphragmatically and you can figure out if you breathe with your neck, I call you my little gold fishes, right? Because you’re breathing with your gills essentially. So the way to really quickly find out, are you a goldfish? You want to put one hand here on this flat bone called your sternum, and one hand on the belly button. And when you take in a big breath of air, which hand moves more?

Jodi Cohen: I’m actually surprised my belly does. I thought I was a…

Jana Danielson: Okay. You thought you were a goldfish?

Jodi Cohen: I did. I was thinking I was guilty of being a goldfish.

Jana Danielson: Okay, so that’s how you test that. And your top hand is moving more. You have conditioned your neck to be your breathing muscles, and it’s just about relearning. If you’re bottom hand move more on that inhale, then that’s amazing. That’s what you want. But here’s what people don’t realize when the diaphragm goes to sleep, when we don’t ask it to do its job, because of its location, it lives right above the pelvic floor and it has a direct line. These two talk all the time. So if this muscle stops functioning, this muscle is also going to stop functioning. So all we need to do is start to breathe properly and we start to improve our pelvic floor health. The one piece that I felt was missing as a Pilates instructor, and in my clinic, I would work with my pelvic floor physiotherapist on this too, as we know that any muscle that is lacking oxygen, rich nutrient rich blood is going to be dysfunctional.

Jana Danielson: It’s like a plant without sunlight and water, right? Yeah, exactly. So my challenge was I knew if I sent my clients to my pelvic floor physical therapist, at my clinic, that they could get an internal exam, they could do some internal work, and get blood flow. They could release trigger points. But I wondered what I could create that I could use in my Pilates classes that people could throw in their suitcase or throw in their gym bag and do for minutes a day that could bring blood flow to that area. And then when they did go to see their pelvic floor physiotherapist or their massage therapist or their acupuncturist or their chiropractor, they would be like, what are you doing? It seems like you have a whole different body. And that’s really how the cooch ball was born, was when you sit on it and the goal is three minutes, but your breath is your guide.

So what do I mean by that? If you get on this ball, and there is something called the ouch factor, I am going to be totally honest about that. The ouch factor is correlated to the health of your pelvic floor. So if you get on this ball and it’s like, wow, I don’t think I can stay for more than 10 seconds, it’s telling you with confidence that it’s like the desert. There’s a lack of blood flow. We can’t start to change the neural network, the paths in your brain without the environment for change. So when you sit on this every day, it’s every day you wouldn’t brush your teeth once a month. What you start doing is you bring that beautiful, consistent supply of blood flow to the pelvic floor muscles so that you can melt through fascial restrictions. Because fascia will do that. It’s like that bo constrictor snake that doesn’t lead blood flow through to muscle fibers. And once you can melt through the fascia, the magic starts to happen. Do you tell

Jodi Cohen: People to do it on a hard floor, on carpet, on a chair? What do you recommend?

Jana Danielson: So it’s not a one-size-fits-all. First of all, I want to show you my ball. Do you see how it’s a little bit squishy? Oh.

Jodi Cohen: Yours is Okay. Mine’s too, too pumped up with air.

Jana Danielson: So I want it to be a little bit squishy. Four. I don’t want the sympathetic nervous system, which is the fight flight freeze. I don’t want the alarm bells going off, so I want the body to be able to melt into this. So you know what? I don’t have a pump by me, but…

Jodi Cohen: So the pump comes with the ball, the little top is in this side, and you put it on top. So I pumped it full of air. How do I, yeah,

Jana Danielson: So you, you’re going to unscrew the needle from your pump first.

Jodi Cohen: Okay? Oh, I’m so glad. A lot of my people have questions, so this is really good.  Jana Danielson: So unscrew that from the pump, and then simply it totally. Jodi Cohen: Messed up on purpose.

Jana Danielson: Yeah, well, it’s a teaching moment, right? Yeah. So take that off, put the pump down, take the needle, and slide the needle into the valve.

Jodi Cohen: Oh, okay.

Jana Danielson: And then you’re just going to squeeze it and…

Jodi Cohen: You have to push a little bit, right? Oh.

Jana Danielson: Yeah, there then. So when I squish mine, do you see how it kind of goes just to the top of the word cooch? That’s how I know. That’s how I want. Okay.

Jodi Cohen: Oh my God, I’m so glad I made that mistake. Okay. And…

Jana Danielson: You know what? Yeah. I’m so glad you made that mistake. That’s perfect. Okay, and I know we saw the other side of the ball too. So men, you also have pelvic floors. Ladies, your men have pelvic floors. So this is the Gooch ball for men and the cooch ball for women, because in a man’s body, pelvic floor dysfunction shows itself as chronically tight hips, low back pain across the entire back, cold, tingly feet, constipation, erectile dysfunction, that is all post prostate cancer or during prostate cancer treatment or post-surgery. Guys have pelvic floors too, and it’s really, and are…

Jodi Cohen: Are the symptoms similar for women?

Jana Danielson: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, in women, I think one of the most common symptoms is incontinence. And there are two kinds of incontinence. There’s urge and stress. So the urge is we’re having a conversation. I don’t have to go pee, and in two seconds from now I’m running to the bathroom, undoing my pants. It’s that urge I have to go right now. And oftentimes we correlate urge incontinence with a pelvic floor that’s lacking tone. We call it hypotonic. So lacking tone, weak, and then we have stress. So you might cough or sneeze or laugh really hard and find yourself wetting yourself a bit. That’s called stress incontinence. We tend to relate that to a pelvic floor. That’s…

Jodi Cohen: Trampoline, jumping, incontinence.

Jana Danielson: Yes. Well, yeah, that’s what it is. And here’s the thing. I heard this stat lately that in women, 70% of women who have incontinence issues, their pelvic floor is too tight. It’s like a rock wall. And yet we’re told to do Kegels, right? We’ve all heard, oh…

Jodi Cohen: Yeah, after the babies, of course.

Jana Danielson: Okay, but here’s the problem or here’s the disconnect. Is that a Kegel or I’ll ask you. So Jody, when you learned about Kegels, how were you taught? How do you do your Kegels when you do them?

Jodi Cohen: It’s basically like squeezing. Yeah, it’s clenching. Kind of.

Jana Danielson: The way I was taught after I had my first son was it’s like you’re stopping the flow of urine. You got to…

Jodi Cohen: Start.

Jana Danielson: The flow of urine. Okay? But let’s think about that. If you already have a tight muscle is not a strong muscle. If my biceps are tight and I can’t completely straighten my arm, that’s not a strong muscle. That’s just a tight muscle. So we now know that tightness does not equal strong. And yet if you already have a too tight pelvic floor, it doesn’t know how to rest, it doesn’t know how to relax, and now you’re saying to it, stop the flow of urine, stop the flow of urine. You’re just actually exacerbating or making that tightness more because you’re adding

more tension to it. And like you said before, we already hold the pelvis as the number one area in women for tension, anxiety, and trauma. That’s where we hang onto it. It could be childbirth, it could be slipping and falling. It could be sexual trauma. It could be the clothes we wear, right? Like the jeans we wear or the shoes we wear can create trauma in the pelvic floor. A lot of women don’t realize that tight fascia in our feet like plantar fasciitis and a lot of tension in through our jaw. Those two areas are directly related to tension in the pelvic floor. So if you have a lot of jaw TMJ stuff going on, for sure you’ve got pelvic floor.

Jodi Cohen: I just learned that because my hips are super tight and I thought it was trauma. I used to carry Max on my hip chasing after my older kid, and I’m like, oh, it’s that trauma. And I wasn’t kidding. I do not like pigeon poses. All the hip-hitting is hard for me, and I do grind my teeth. And someone just pointed out that’s correlated. All right, so tell me, what should I be doing every day for three minutes?

Jana Danielson: Okay.

Jodi Cohen: I och ball. That’s now properly inflated.

Jana Danielson: Yes, now that you’re ready to go. So the breathing is really key. Alright, and I want to just quickly just, we’ll walk through this and I should say that we do have a special offer that we’re going to talk about for your community. Take the time, ladies, just take the five or 10 minutes to just watch the get started videos because it will optimize your experience and it’ll boost your confidence. The biggest question is, am I doing it right? I don’t know if I’m doing it right. Well, have you watched the videos? No, I haven’t watched the videos, right? So think about this. When you inhale through your nose, your lungs are filling with air and your lungs actually end just above your collarbone. The lungs are quite large. So when we inhale, the volume of the lungs fills up. That diaphragm muscle actually has to duck out of the way because the lungs are leaving no room.

Alright, so when we inhale, the diaphragm melts, it contracts, it gets smaller. Remember earlier I told you the diaphragm and the pelvic floor have a direct relationship. So as the diaphragm descends, the pelvic floor is also going to descend, which means as the diaphragm is contracting and getting smaller, the pelvic floor is going to be expanding and melting in the same direction. They go in the same direction, but they’re doing two different things. One is contracting, one is expanding. Alright, when we exhale out of our mouths, the lungs empty. There’s no room for the diaphragm. So the diaphragm comes back up, it expands into that mushroom cap shape and the pelvic floor follows it contracts. It’s almost like picking up a grape with your vagina. So there’s this beautiful melt and float, melt and float, melt and float. So when you’re sitting on the ball, and I was talking to Jody before we went live, I love using the fascia release oil.

If it’s at night, if I’m doing my cooch ball at night, I love using the circadian rhythm oil while I’m doing my breathing, it becomes like my gift to myself. Those three minutes, I turn off all auditory stimulation, I close my eyes, the visual stimulation, I have the smell of my essential oils, and I’m sitting on my ball and I’m connecting with my body. I’m checking in with her, how are you today? Geez, this feels a little bit different than yesterday. You know what? Haven’t been filling my water bottle as much today. I’m going to make sure I have this inner dialogue with myself. And just check in. And that’s what you’re doing. If you find yourself holding your breath or your breath is a bit erratic and your timer on your phone hasn’t hit three minutes yet, just come off the ball and just continue your breathing until the three minutes is done. And then maybe tomorrow you can stay for an extra 20 seconds. It’s not like the tortoise and the hare, it’s not like winning the race. It’s the process and the beautiful learning that comes along with a little bit of TLC every day.

Jodi Cohen: I love that. I love that. So it’s as simple as just sitting on it. It’s not complicated. You’re not doing any movement. Okay, that’s

Jana Danielson: Fabulously easy. Just start with that. I mean, when my husband is on his, he does, I was showing you that spinal movement, he kind of does move a little bit on it. It’s not like you can’t move on it. The biggest thing to remember is that if you are sitting on your yoga mat and you’re like, the ouch factor is impacting my breath, then sit on your couch or go sit on your bed because the mattress or the couch cushions will absorb a little bit of the ball and it’ll be a little less intense, right? Take more air out. Stay for me, I have some women that really, seriously, they started 15 seconds. That’s all they’ve got because it’s like Alcatraz, it’s a rock. They need to learn how to chill out and relax. And then do you feel coming off the ball when you get off the ball Over time, you want to feel warmth and tingliness.

That’s how you know with confidence, the blood flow is getting through those fascial restrictions into the musculature. You might feel like almost like you’re sitting in your chair or into your floor. Things will feel quite wide open. Your hips will feel like they could take a breath of fresh air for the first time maybe in years. And you’ll just, because it feels good to feel good. You don’t even know that you’re restricted until you learn how to really release. I love that. I love that. This has been so incredibly helpful. Do you want to share your special offer for the community? Yes, I do. Alright, so Jody will have the link to this offer. So what it is is the cooch ball bundle. So you get the cooch ball, you get your pump, you get a little get-started postcard with it as well. I think Jody, yeah, you have that too. And yeah, there it is. Okay.

So that’s what you get. And then you’ll be a part of my community. You’ll get an email that’ll get you access to your student dashboard where you’ll find the Cooch Confident Training System, which is 10 minutes to get started. And then I also have a fun half-hour workout with the Cooch Ball called Cooch Ball Tone. So we get down on the mat and I show you how to use it to get some glute work, to get some great ab work to work on your posture and alignment. So that’s in there as a bonus of being part of Jodi’s community. We’re also going to gift you the, we call it the Cooch Fix Pack mini. So this little thing is not just a one-trick pony. I’m going to show you how to use it for upper body wellness, breast health, the health of neck.

Neck is huge. Yeah, it is huge, right? There’s one video where we do together lower bodywork and then one on gut health. And I should mention that the design patent of this ball and why it’s not like a dodge ball you can buy at an apartment store is it’s what you can’t see. It’s like you can’t see the pelvic floor, you can’t see the magic.

Jana Danielson: But in between, there’s three layers of this ball, the bladder, no pun intended. And then the outer core between those two layers, we found some really cool nylon thread that is quite stretchy and we wrap that nylon thread in a really unique pattern around the bladder of the ball. And then we put the blue outer covering on it. That’s why as an adult, we can sit on this ball and it doesn’t just get squashed down. The magic happens.

Alright? And we have another bonus as well because I just think Jody is fabulous. We’re going to add into this offer two months of my brand new membership called Koch School. So you don’t have to do this on your own. We talk so much about DIY. This really ladies is like DI we. And I think in the process of girl power and being independent women, we have simply forgotten that we are meant to be in community. The divine feminine is meant to be in community and support and dust each other off and not compete. And my success is independent from yours. And so Koch school really is about supporting you to make this a part of your lifestyle. We’ve got live q and as. I’ve got amazing guest speakers. There’s something in there called a Pilates playground. So you’re going to learn how to use your Koch ball through some really amazing movement, and we’re going to give you two months of that for free as well.

Jodi Cohen: No, this is amazing. I am so excited to get started on this. And I will keep you posted because my hips are painfully tight. I’m excited for this. Oh, I have a quick question. How soon might people start to notice results?

Jana Danielson: So I’ve had women in as little as seven days be like, I’m only waking up once at night. But what I say is to be consistent for 30 days. Give yourself 30 days of consistency and there will be some change. Either you won’t be running to the bathroom as much, or you’ll have more control.

Jodi Cohen: This helps with nighttime waking to pee.

Jana Danielson: Well, for sure it does.

Jodi Cohen: Oh, a lot of customers for you. Okay.

Jana Danielson: Yeah. So I like to say give it the 30 days because it and consistency is key, right? You can buy it and then it can become…

Jodi Cohen: A dog. It can go in your supplement graveyard. And here’s another question for the overachievers out there. If once a day is as good as twice a day is better.


Jana Danielson: Twice a day is totally fine. I like to do my morning and night and sometimes I’ll lay down and just put my mat on the floor and I’ll lay on my belly and I’ll do my SOAs, right? I’ll lie down. So some of those things from the cooch fix pack, lay and do a neck release, do your breastwork, right? There’s just, if you have more time, use it on other parts of your body.

Jodi Cohen: Thank you. Is there anything I haven’t asked you that you’d like to add?

Jana Danielson: The only thing, or what I would like to leave your community with is that I feel like for those of you that are here, you’re here for a reason, right? You’re looking, you’ve been searching for maybe answers or you want to uplevel your health and wellness. And sometimes this can feel like a lot. And because we’ve been very muted about pelvic floor health, we think we’re the only ones going through it. And in fact, one in two women in the US is dealing with some sort of pelvic floor dysfunction. So first of all, you’re not on your own. Not at all. And anything that I mentioned today, if it’s resonating with you, that information becomes education. When it resonates and you take, so maybe you’re like, oh, maybe I should be moving my spine in a different way, or I didn’t realize that breathing diaphragmatically gave me all these benefits.

And then once you live that information and it becomes education, share it with someone because that’s when it becomes that innate women’s wisdom. And that’s how because I’m on a mission. I’m on a mission, Jody, the incontinence product industry is a 21 billion industry with a B. Do you know how many women on this planet believe that pads are the solution to their pelvic floor problem? And if I could get the help of any woman watching this today, and men, right? Men rise up too, because the erectile dysfunction industry is a $9 billion industry and 90% of erectile dysfunction is actually rooted in pelvic floor tension. Just that would be huge. The more people that we can spread this message to about the simplicity. I think sometimes we think health has to be complicated and it doesn’t.

Jodi Cohen: No, I actually was asked to write a blog on nighttime Waking to Peace. So I’m going to give this one a try and this could be part of my solution. Thank you so much for your time and your brilliance. This was fabulous. I really appreciate it and your generous gift.

Jana Danielson: You’re welcome.

About The Author

Jodi Cohen

Jodi Sternoff Cohen is the founder of Vibrant Blue Oils. An author, speaker, nutritional therapist, and a leading international authority on essential oils, Jodi has helped over 50,000 individuals support their health with essential oils.