Jodi: Hello, I am your host, Jodi Cohen, and I’m really [00:01:00] excited to welcome someone I’ve been friends with for quite some time. Brian Hoyer, and he has been evolving in this evolving world of EMF. He is one of the world’s top EMF mitigation specialists and a fellow functional nutritional therapy practitioner.
He began his deep dive into health when he became a father. How many kids do you have
Brian: now? Four.
Jodi: What are their
Brian: ages? 12 actually she’s 13 now. 13, 10, almost eight year old, and then a two year old.
Jodi: Amazing. Amazing. And he wanted to pride the most optimal growing environment for his family.
You founded SHIELD Lead Healing in 2017 with the goal of helping modern humanity recreate. Electromagnetic environments that more closely mimic our historic human habitants. And you’ve been hand selected and trained an elite team [00:02:00] of EMF professionals. You’ve actually come and done Maya Seattle house, which we can talk about, and You offer consultations to customize EMF shielding for homes and businesses from the ground up in new construction, remodel projects, hotels, and schools.
Welcome Brian. And you also have this amazing class to help people figure out a D Y I class that we can talk
Brian: about. Yeah. Yeah. We’re trying to help people where they’re at. ’cause a lot of people aren’t ready to just have a professional come in and scan the whole place and come up with a whole plan right away.
They, or we can’t get to them. ’cause we do travel to all the contiguous United States and then sometimes we’ll get out to Hawaii and we’re trying to plan a trip up to Alaska and we go to Mexico sometimes. But we’ve. About, usually we can get to any place in the contiguous United States ’cause I’ve [00:03:00] got about five people trained to go all over and we hit every place about once every other month or once every three months on the East Coast and west coast.
And we have people stationed all around the United States.
Jodi: Okay. So tell me a little bit about your background and how you got into what you do
Brian: now. Sure. Yeah. So my background as stated in my bio is that I’m, I started off as a functional nutritional therapy practitioner, and I had a practice in California where I was seeing about 50 regular clients and doing in-office testing with all the neuro lymphatic reflex points.
And I, I learned Dr. Klinghardt’s. Autonomic response testing. And so I was incorporating all of that into my practice and building these customized protocols for people to help balance their digestion and hormones and basically everything just building these customized protocols. And, [00:04:00] with that certification you tend to want to do continuing education.
And when I did the Kling heart training, I. For the autonomic response testing, which is a type of muscle testing system, that’s I think it’s probably the most accurate way to muscle test. We he’d had this lecture on EMF and just made this statement about, half of his practice has children with autism and the, in his experience that the children will not get better unless they do these steps to take care of the EMF problem.
And those things like turning the wifi off at night and moving, moving the bed away from geopathic stress zones or mitigating the geopathic stress zones. And fully shielding the entire bedroom and installing filters for the dirty electricity. There was all these points that you have to hit and you have to do [00:05:00] all of these things or else.
The patient doesn’t get better,
Jodi: and so it that’s not every autistic patient. Just to clarify, it’s ones that happen to be in geopathic stress zones, but Yes.
Brian: Yeah. Yeah. It’s every one of his patients he noticed, especially with the children with autism. But yeah, there’s people with chronic Lyme and mold and
Jodi: just but only the ones that weren’t getting better with just the basic, like when they weren’t getting better, he looked at that.
Brian: Yeah. But he would always have as a prerequisite that you have to take care of this first. Otherwise, I won’t work with you. I don’t know if that’s still his policy, but he had that in place for a while.
Jodi: Basically I do think the point being that you have to look at the environment as
Yeah. Yeah. It’s you’re doing all these things and the supplements aren’t working. And this is what I started to notice in my practice is that I would get people [00:06:00] better like spending like six or eight weeks on a gut healing protocol, optimizing their digestion as soon as they get off the supplements.
Even though they’re still eating the same way, things would start to come back, the stress would creep in and it, it started to experiment with shielding the EMF and doing things that way. And I would notice that they wouldn’t need the supplements anymore. And sometimes they could just.
Heal without a lot of the supplements. And if you want to jumpstart the healing, I would definitely use the supplements. There’s some really powerful things you can use, including essential oils to help balance the organs and get everything moving in a really quick way, but in order to maintain that addressing these environmental stressors can even boost the effectiveness of all of the things that you’re doing with supplementation, digestive enzymes oils, like whatever you’re doing.
If you’re, if you have a [00:07:00] better environment that’s not bombarding you all the time while you’re sleeping, then all the therapies that you’re doing tend to work better. And so I was looking around for other professionals to recommend, ’cause I didn’t know much about this. I’d only started to research on my own.
And nobody was doing. Those steps to make the perfect environment, which is what I wanted. Because as a nutritional therapy practitioner, I’m trying to get people back to an ancestral diet and more of an ancestral lifestyle. But and everything that you’re putting into your body needs to be natural, whole food nutrient dense, but, They weren’t in an ancestral environment to healing.
So my thought was, gosh, we’re working so hard to get all this stuff into the body that’s ancestral, like what humans have eaten for thousands or millions of years or whatever. But yet we don’t have an ancestral environment. And so like we have all of these crazy stressors that are [00:08:00] modern stressors.
That are just bombarding us and causing dysfunction in the body. And so how do we fix that? That to match the ancest match a more ancestral environment, and there just wasn’t really anybody doing that. So I decided to look around and search, and I found a. A clinic from Austria, a naturopathic and environmental medicine clinic that was doing a workshop in the United States.
And I went to their training, got certified with them as a geobiologist, and started, my journey with that. I. Implementing like these solutions and taking the, taking it even to higher levels and more shielding that better matches the, our ancestral environment and including, we added in light.
I don’t think I was testing much in artificial lighting when I did your assessment in Seattle a few years ago, but Now we’re actually testing lighting with these cool spectrometers that we have. And going [00:09:00] around and trying to match the outdoor light with the indoor light and changing the lights in inside the house to, to better accommodate, like healing indoors.
Because let’s be honest, a lot of us spend a lot of time indoors, especially in the winter. And the lighting environment is huge for for. For combating things like seasonal affective disorder, vitamin D deficiency and all sorts of things. Even a lot of mitochondrial dysfunction because of not being exposed to near infrared light nearly as much in the winter versus when you’re outside a lot more in the summertime.
Jodi: I love that. So you identified a need that needed filling and you dove in to figure out how the environment can either support your regulation or dysregulate you
Brian: yeah. And that’s essentially the philosophy of it is let’s, with anything we do, let’s think about this in terms of foundational ancestral tenets, almost [00:10:00] like what, what is, and that’s really the baseline of what’s healthy for humans, because that’s how our bodies have developed over thousands and thousands of years to be in an environment where this certain type of food is available and our bodies Adjust to that.
And then also, what kind of environment did we have? How are we walking on the ground? Was it barefoot? Were we getting connected to the earth? And there’s so many modern things where we’re disconnected from the earth with rubber sold shoes, building our houses up off the ground. And driving in cars instead of on a living, being like a horse where they’re connected to the ground.
And so we’re disconnecting ourself from this beneficial energy from the earth. And then introducing all these wireless frequencies and pulsating electric currents that are actually causing stimulation in a more sympathetic response, A more fight or flight response in the body. So like [00:11:00] the idea is okay, how do we get back connected to the earth and how we’re supposed to be on this planet?
And how do we block out a lot of the artificial frequencies, whether it’s electricity from the walls? Or, in the harmonics that go along with that electricity and the wireless frequencies and the magnetic fields and the artificial pulsating light that we have, and also making sure that we have the right spectrum of light.
And so the. The model is, okay, what does nature provide us and what have we messed up in the, in this, on this planet? And how do we use technology and shielding techniques to recreate what we’re the environment that we are supposed to be in. . And I think this really made sense to me after thinking about, one day we were at the zoo.
And my wife, she was a zookeeper. And we [00:12:00] were looking at all these animals and there was these spider monkeys in Lodi, California at this zoo that she was working at as a zookeeper. And there was people that were feeding them hot dogs. And as a zookeeper, she would always have to be like, no, you guys, you can’t feed them that, that’s not their natural diet.
Yeah. And and it created this idea in my mind like, man, what if we had a human exhibit? What would our natural diet be? And what would we be looking like? And I think right now what it would look like is just a living room and everybody connected to their wifi and their cell phones.
Just there with the blue light blasting. And that’s completely different than what a zookeeper would want for our species. If they were having humans in a zoological exhibit like, Historically, for thousands and thousands of years, we would’ve been barefoot, grounded to the earth, sun on our skin, and we wouldn’t [00:13:00] have any of these frequencies around.
And so that picture of a human exhibit in a zoo, like what is the natural environment and zookeepers, they work so hard to provide like a more natural environment. Something like what? What they would have in nature. Eating the right diet. Creating trees and limbs and habitats that they can actually climb on that, that mimics the natural environment so that they can still be who they are of their, as in the essence of who they are as a species.
Monkeys need to be monkeys, they need to climb.
Jodi: Unpack that. Let’s first talk about what throws us outta balance, like you mentioned DMFs and electricity. Can you talk a little bit about what that does to us and how you un unpack that.
Brian: Yeah. So if you think about I like to split things up into natural frequencies versus unnatural ones.
Wonderful. Basically the [00:14:00] natural frequency of electricity is the DC energy that you get from the earth. And this is a one-way direction. It’s just straight, flat, consistent, constant flowing energy. Like when you’re barefoot on the ground, you’re getting that constant energy going up. You’re actually releasing negative ions.
. And discharging any static electricity that’s built up on the body now with With the manmade electricity, which is alternating current, that’s not found in nature anywhere. And so what that is it’s alternating current. So instead of going like one direction and not and no pulsing, no constant and constant, it’s going.
Alternating up and down and forward. So there’s three directions to it and it’s pulsating at 60 hertz. And 60 hertz actually [00:15:00] interacts with our bodies because a lot of our brainwaves go from about 10 hertz all the way up to 60 hertz. The Schumann resonance of the earth is about. 7.87 to up to 30 hertz and it varies throughout the day and the night.
And that kind of helps our body set its circadian rhythm. And along with the light cycles and the magnetic cycles of the earth and moon and sun. And so there’s all these natural things that are occurring, but the unnatural thing is these pulsations and I like to give the example of thinking about the way that.
The human body responds to electricity. Like when you get think of an extreme, like you get shocked by an electrical outlet. Like electricians know that if you grab something, like you have this muscle contraction that happens and it’s hard to let go if it’s on, it’s like it sticks to you and your muscles are [00:16:00] contracting.
Or like when you restart a heart, you pump voltage into the heart, it contracts the heart, and that’s how you get a heart to restart. So there’s this contraction. That happens with this pulsation and it’s, it can be involuntary. So our bodies are very, very much responding to these pulsating currents of electricity in a way that’s not natural.
And that actually, because when you contract a muscle, you use up calcium, the magnesium is supposed to relax the muscle. So if you constantly have this contraction, and relaxation that’s happening because of pulsing, then you’re losing calcium and you’re losing magnesium. And a lot of, I’ve often thought that, man, maybe the reason why like over 80% of the world population is deficient magnesium is because we don’t really have that much in our diet and we’re losing [00:17:00] a lot of it because of all this EMF pulsation that’s happening that’s making us lose it on a cellular level.
So that I, wonderful. That’s all you’ve heard about
Jodi: that. I have. I’ve, yeah. And just even the imbalances, like to your point that we’re taking all the right supplements and, we’re sleeping, we’re moving, we’re eating, and something’s still off. What are we missing? Yeah.
Brian: And, it’s partially the, this mineral balancing thing and, magnesium affects sodium and there’s all kinds of other interactions that happen with any one mineral depletion isn’t, doesn’t mean that you’re just gonna be imbalanced in one mineral. All the minerals are connected in various ways in the body, and so it can start to really cause some major dysregulation when any one.
Environmental stressor is depleting even one mineral or one vitamin or whatever it is. . So, [00:18:00] you there’s some other side things that happen. Like you, typically people who are exposed to a lot of EMF have lower melatonin production. . And I think a lot of that has to do with the oxidative stress that’s created from the voltage hitting the cell membrane and creating this molecule called peroxynitrite.
And that’s an inflammatory molecule that just cau, it’s found in high levels for people that have multiple chemical sensitivity chronic fatigue, autoimmune disorders. They all have, all of these chronic conditions that people are dealing with often have a component of high peroxynitrite levels in certain parts of the body.
And, the melatonin actually helps to. Diffuse that whole situation by dampening that inflammatory response via the, I think it’s the infl i l six pathway. And there’s just all of these [00:19:00] intricate things that can happen just because of one type of exposure or multiple types of exposure.
And EMF is one of those things where there’s all different kinds of EMF that you have to. Have to consider. And really there’s no one solution that fixes all the types of EMF because EMF includes visible light all the way down to, wireless frequencies from your phone and then also the electricity in your walls.
And each one of those things has a different. Solution. You can’t do the same thing to protect yourself. Turning off your wifi doesn’t fix your light environment. Correct. Fixing your light environment doesn’t fix the electricity that’s coming onto you and buzzing your cells from the wiring behind the walls.
So the one
Jodi: thing I wanted to add, I’ve heard that it’s like a perfect storm that EMF exacerbates mold growth and parasites and all these other problems. When you have EMF in the mix, it just compounds it. [00:20:00] Metals in your mouth. React.
Brian: Yeah. Yeah. Everything’s, especially the metals, your whole body’s conductive and resonates with these frequencies in different ways.
And it depends on the size of your organs too. ’cause the. All of these frequencies have different lengths of the waves. So there’s some waves that are like the size of your head and that’s gonna resonate a lot with your head and actually go pretty much all the way into the center of your brain.
So there’s a certain frequency that’ll resonate with the myelin sheath of your brain. Certain ones that’ll resonate more with the liver and the pancreas, or the gallbladder or the spleen. And it can go down and even to the cellular level your skin actually provides a pretty good protection for a lot of those higher frequencies that are smaller wavelengths and resonate more with smaller Tissues and organs.
But but in general, the human body [00:21:00] is about, anywhere between four and seven feet tall. And so the frequencies that resonate most with that are really in smack dab in the middle of the FM radio. And so a lot of people don’t realize that. Cell phone frequencies can resonate pretty well with the body up to about three gigahertz.
But the radio is the radio stations that you get from your FM radio, like when you’re changing stations in your car, those resonate the most. And if you’re really close to any of those towers, Then you could have some really major things going on in your house. ’cause a lot of things in your house are about the sa same size as your body.
If you have a metal chair or a wall, eight feet tall walls with metal beams in it. There’s all kinds of things that can resonate with those frequencies and it creates, when it resonates. It creates a field that comes out from it, a certain distance. And so the most practical example would be like, if you remember those old bunny [00:22:00] rabbits on the television set.
. And like when you would go to get close with your hand to them. Yeah. And touch them, the reception starts to get better. Yes. And that’s the. That’s because your body is picking up that signal and resonating that frequency out a certain distance. So as you get close to the antenna, it’s showing you that, hey, your body is acting like an antenna.
And when you start to touch that antenna that’s on the tv you’re becoming part of that antenna and helping the reception to be better.
Jodi: My grandparents used to take aluminum and attach it yeah.
Brian: Yeah. So you can put aluminum on there and that’s one of the reasons why I question, and I don’t really recommend a lot of the shielded clothing that’s out there is because it’s like putting aluminum on the antenna.
You’re an antenna already and then you’re surrounding yourself with metal and it is blocking like some of the frequencies. But there’s these Other [00:23:00] resonant frequencies that are collecting that energy and retransmitting the. The objects frequency back into the body at even sometimes even stronger than the original signal.
And so it’s, when you wear, if you wear shielded clothing, it should really be, I like it better for like, when you’re traveling at an airport. Airplane because the Fre, you know that the frequencies they’re using are higher frequencies. Like on an airplane they’re using 2.4 gigahertz.
That’s a little bit higher frequency. That’s not gonna resonate as much with the shielded clothing. But when you’re out and about, like at your house or in town, you’re gonna have. All kinds of, hundreds or thousands of different frequencies that are resonating onto that clothing. And then retransmitting very close to your body and penetrating into your tissues and organs.
So it’s, that’s why some people feel better with it and others feel terrible. [00:24:00] At the same time. And the only difference is, yeah, they’re wearing the same clothes, but they’re in a different environment. Some people might be in an environment where they have more higher frequencies that are exposed to, and other people that might feel bad wearing it may have lower frequencies that are actually resonating and creating a more of a problem.
Jodi: No, that’s wonderful. And thank you for clarifying the difference between natural and unnatural energy. There was one question I know that when you came to our house, there was like some natural energy. Like sometimes if there are streams that are flowing in a certain way, sometimes natural energy, if your house is out of alignment, can be problematic.
Can you talk about that a little bit?
Brian: This kind of goes back to, what our ancestors discovered, they didn’t have any of the manmade frequencies around that were causing problems. And so they were much more sensitive to natural elevated frequencies that, that and fields that could [00:25:00] impact their own bodies and also the bodies of livestock and pets and things like that.
There’s some areas of the earth where the magnetic field is stronger. And more what I would say, noxious fields where there’s more metal in the ground and it’s compressing, or there’s water that’s pushing through different types of metal, creating a battery like effect and coming up from the earth.
And those intense areas are very problematic. Especially at nighttime because they get charged by the sun during the day and then they give off. They give off different types of radiation depending on what the material is from the ground during the night. And your body at night is meant to be.
It’s meant nighttime and sleep is meant to be a repair mode is meant to be a repair mode for the human body. . And so it’s like you’re checking into [00:26:00] all of your body’s frequencies without any interference from outside frequencies. And so if you think about it like what happens at night, the sun goes down, so you don’t have any of the even natural light frequencies that your body’s being stimulated by.
. And also our ancestors, they would go into. Perhaps a cave or a stone structure or a mud hutt. And they would actually be the natural resonances of the earth would be dampened in that environment. And so that’s even less of stimulation from the outside world, even the natural energies. And so any natural energy that you’re, and in excess that you’re getting coming up from the earth is also problematic.
So you wanna be in a low energy Space while you’re sleeping and so that your body can tune into, okay, guess what? My, something in my brain is putting out a pain signal or some kind of frequency. ’cause our [00:27:00] bodies actually communicate via these electrical signals and and. When there’s interference, it’s harder to know what’s going on for your body to know what’s going on in the body.
’cause there could be a false signal coming from any manmade source or even a natural source, like if there’s a lightning storm going on. And there’s a lot of documentation historically about people getting sick during thunderstorms as well. What about like
Jodi: where the bed is and if there’s some kind of underwater stream that’s in that area and how that throws
Brian: you off?
Yeah, so you can measure with, the classical way to measure according to environmental medicine in Europe is to measure it with these copper dowsing rods. And basically it’s more scientific than it is. Woo. Because you’re standing there with these two electrodes, basically these copper rods, and your body is conductive.
And when you enter into a field, the [00:28:00] polarization changes and the copper rods tend to attract toward one another. When you have a more intense field, that’s, that you’re exposed to walking over. And you can detect. Underground water currents that are going, that’s what a lot of these people do to find wells and oil.
Yeah. As they’ll hire, a lot of the big oil companies will actually hire somebody with the, that’s really good with the copper rods to go and find out where to drill the hole for oil or for water And they’ll get it, they pay ’em hundreds of thousands of dollars just ’cause they know Right where to point to, to dig the well.
You can find water. And that’s what a lot of our team members do. Besides all of the manmade stuff that we’re testing for, with all of our equipment and everything. . We’re testing for these stress zones, especially on the bed where you’re sleeping. . But also where you’re spending a lot of time during the day and then mapping it out.
And we can [00:29:00] either move the bed or. We have a d i Y solution that we guide people through to, to make these copper rings that actually create a deflection field and and essentially create a bubble around, around the bed by, you just have two pieces of copper and a figure eight, and as that energy comes up, it resonates on those that copper figure eight.
Structure that you’ve built, and then it re resonates back that same frequency to the ground, and then you can test it with the rods and it doesn’t come together anymore in that area. So
Jodi: I love this. So what I’ve heard so far is that I. Energies can throw off our healing. Not, there’s not a one size fits all solution.
It’s not like everyone should wear the shielding clothing, but you do have a system for helping to educate people about what’s going on so they can home assess and do some things [00:30:00] themselves and then have resources to hire out. Can you talk about your course and how that’s structured A little
Sure. So the course is called The Electric Pollution Fixed Course, and I partnered up with Nick Pinot the EMF guy to offer that course. And Nick is very well versed on EMF research and he interviews a lot of EMF scientists. And then The side that I bring into it is all the practical solutions.
So me and my team were on the ground, doing 30 to 40 EMF testings at people’s homes and businesses per month. And so doing 30 to 40 per month, we’re really in tune with the products that are out there. We’re testing saunas all the time. We’re testing light panels, we’re testing all these kinds of biohacking equipment and so we know and lighting, so we know what the good.
Products are and what the ones that can be improved are, and o Oftentimes we’ll work with these companies to improve [00:31:00] products, whether it’s something that you use in therapeutically or just a household item. But the course actually walks you through all the things that you can do on your own. Before we even get there, which actually makes our testing in a person’s house go a lot better.
And then you, and then you can, it goes a lot faster. And then you can really zero in on, okay, here’s the ultimate solution for your house because you’ve already taken care of all the stuff internally. That’s the problem. But the issue that we come have run into the last few years is that we’ve come to a point in human history where everybody.
Who cares about health and wellness needs to do something to shield their bedroom at night. . And that’s because we just have increasing amounts of wireless. It’s not getting better, it’s getting worse all the time. There’s more and more frequencies and it’s coming, bombarding us from the outside.
So [00:32:00] really, no matter what you do on the inside, there’s always gonna be this, these outside sources that are bombarding you and you have to do something about that. So the course is really about. And there’s a, about like maybe 60% of what you have to do for EMF mitigation is inside the home. And so it’s taking that big chunk and giving you a headstart on all of that.
And it’s it makes it so we can really zero in when we come in with our, we have about $20,000 worth of equipment that we’re bringing into people’s homes to test this. And that’s, most people can’t afford to just buy the equipment and learn it all themselves and do that. So that’s the service that we provide.
And then come up with a plan for them to through, through shielded healing to basically mitigate, especially the bedroom, but also. Do as much as we can throughout the house. That makes sense. And every home is different. We’ll find wiring errors, things that electricians have done in the [00:33:00] past that are creating a magnetic field over like a whole half of the house or sometimes the whole house.
I remember you found
Jodi: that in mine, like my, my circuitry in my bedroom wasn’t grounded and I had to bring in a new electrician to totally fix
Brian: it. Yeah, exactly. There’s it’s very common, actually. Probably one out of three homes we have to get an electrician involved to, to fix something minor.
And then maybe one, one or two out of 10 there’s something major that we need to really work with them on fixing and electricians. We’re lucky because we have enough knowledge that we’re able to show in the National Electric Code which thing is wrong in, because the National Electric Code, if they, if electricians follow that to a t, then you’re not gonna have many issues for magnetic fields in the house.
But the caveat to that is that you’re always gonna have electric fields just because of the materials that they use. They’re using this plastic romex that’s not shielded [00:34:00] and from voltage leaking out. So the voltage basically covers the whole. Entire room and you’re surrounding yourself with these pulsating frequencies in 99.9% of homes in the United States.
The only exception is if you live in some condo in like a high rise in Chicago or New York, or possibly LA or Dallas or someplace like that. And they used metal conduit to. To hold the wires in, and then that conduit’s grounded, and so there’s not any electric fields leaking out of that. So basically what we recommend to do is either use a canopy around the bed that can be grounded to block those electric fields from coming onto your body, or We have a system of shielding paint that we recommend that’s grounded and that blocks all that electricity from coming onto your body and stimulating you all night long while you’re sleeping.
Jodi: [00:35:00] Amazing. So how do people find out about this course, which sounds like a great kind of gateway to learning more and working
Brian: with you? Yeah, so you can find firstname.lastname@example.org. Okay. And we’ll have a coupon code for your listeners for a hundred dollars off the course. The course retails for 2 97, so it would be 1 97 with your coupon.
And and yeah, that’s the course. It goes module by module. There’s homework. And you can get your family involved in a lot of the things, one of the things we do is have you take a slow motion video of all the lights in your house to see if your lights are flickering because there’s, what’s that?
Jodi: No, that’s interesting. That’s an easy, yeah. Low hanging fruit way to figure out
Brian: the problem. Yeah. So you know what we found is that a lot of the issues that people have that are electrosensitive even, or people that’re just trying to optimize their health like a lot of people are [00:36:00] really aware of blue light, that it’s bad at night, but not many people are unders have been understanding that flicker.
Is a huge issue as well, and I really helped bring that to the forefront about four years ago when I started measuring with this German made meter here. And it measures flicker and so like you can hear that’s the 60 hertz from the light above me and this is another light source over here and another one.
But you can hear here’s my phone.
Oh wow. So that’s the sound of the flickering happening, and they convert it to an audio signal so you can actually hear it. But this, that’s a neurological stressor. If you think about strobe lights and people with epilep, it cau it can cause an [00:37:00] epileptic seizure.
But a lot of us have these lights all around our house. We’re wondering why we’re getting headaches when we go to the office or we’re at home in this certain area. If you can just do the slow motion video on the lights that you know, that’s, that’ll give you a clue as to if they’re flickering.
’cause you’ll be able to visually see it flickering in slow motion. So that’s an example of one of the homeworks where you can really get your family involved, which is important because. Getting the family on board with everything you’re doing. There’s gonna have to be a few changes that need to be made, and we really want people to have success.
And that’s a huge thing is if you have a skeptic in the house, we have a whole module whole talk on how to get skeptics on board and Then just each module is about a different type of EMF, what to do if you’re in an apartment, if you’re not in a permanent situation, what to do if you’re building a house, that sort of thing.
And we just go through everything and it’s really, it’s a self-paced thing and we’ve [00:38:00] had really stellar reviews so far.
Jodi: Amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your brilliance and everyone can learn more. We’ll have all the links below and thank you for the generous discount.
Brian: Yeah, you’re welcome.